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Interview: Kathryn Bigelow

The Hurt Locker director breaks out
By PETER KEOUGH  |  July 8, 2009


Review: The Hurt Locker. By Peter Keough.

White-knuckle thrill rites: Bigelow puts the art into action. By Peter Keough.

Okay, so Kathryn Bigelow might be the only major filmmaker to have modeled for the Gap. And now, at 57, she could do so again. Although everyone makes a point of Bigelow's gender and height and good looks, what's germane is that even if she were short and had bushy eyebrows like Martin Scorsese, she still would be directing action pictures like no one since Sam Peckinpah and Sergio Leone. With her latest, The Hurt Locker, creating terrific buzz, maybe she'll start getting the recognition she deserves.

Here's another point that might cause some to pause: the new film is about the war in Iraq. Not only did that war undo a presidency and the country's image in the eyes of the world, it has also spelled box-office death for all films on the subject. Until now, perhaps. The Hurt Locker won't be doing Transformers numbers, but it will probably beat out In the Valley of Elah (scripted, like The Hurt Locker, by Mark Boal, who drew on his experiences as an embedded journalist).

Unlike those previous Iraq movies, and unlike almost every other film released this summer, The Hurt Locker focuses on vivid characters in thrilling circumstances and renders what happens to them with lucidity, logic, and gut-wrenching suspense. It's the story of a bomb tech (Jeremy Renner) in Baghdad in 2004 whose job it is to defuse improvised explosive devices (IEDs). He does the job with uncanny skill, and, more important, he enjoys the rush of danger, just like the characters in almost all of Bigelow's movies, from Near Dark (1987) to Point Break (1991) to Strange Days (1995). A thrill that might not be shared by Bigelow herself after a rough flight in from New York to attend a screening of The Hurt Locker at the Harvard Film Archive.

How are you today?
Fine. Other than the plane was hit twice in midair by lightning. Did you ever have that happen?

Not that I've been aware of.
Oh, you would be! It was like a bullwhip snapped the whole plane. Bam! It was very intense. So I'm very happy to see you.

What an adrenaline rush! That's probably as close as you'll get to defusing a 155 [A Howitzer shell used in IEDs].
Let me knock on wood.

After the Harvard screening ofThe Hurt Locker,someone said, "This makes Michael Bay look like a wimp." What is the key to making a powerful action movie?
Emotional investment with the characters. Smart stories. If you're not emotionally engaged, cinematic prowess can't invent what is not there. And then there's keeping the audience oriented. Making sure the geography is very clear, especially in a movie like The Hurt Locker, where that is the key to understanding what a bomb tech does on a daily basis in Baghdad in 2004.

So, no Autobots.
No tricks. If you're creating excitement strictly from an editing standpoint, it has to be intrinsic to the story and the subject. It doesn't come from form, it comes from content. You are worried for the characters or you even break down the fourth wall and become them.

Are these guys addicted to adrenaline, or do they have a death wish?
I wouldn't want to think of it as a death wish, but I think they are incredibly courageous. If you've read Chris Hedges's book War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, he talks about the allure of war. And, mind you, this is an all-volunteer military. What Hedges says is that for some individuals, combat provides an allure and an attraction.

Do you find it ironic that this is coming out the same week the troops are withdrawing from major Iraq cities?
I do. When the studio set the release date, back in January, I think the withdrawal date was set for August. I don't think they could have anticipated it.

With the war ending, do you think your movie might not suffer the same fate as other Iraq-War films?
This is the first that is, in fact, a war film. The others were not about combat. It's like if you were to go into Blockbuster and were looking for Coming Home, it would be under "Drama." If you were looking for Apocalypse Now, it would be under "War." This also would be in the "War" section. That's my scientific categorization.

Is this theApocalypse Now of Iraq?
Our references are more The Battle of Algiers or The Best Years of Our Lives. But what I do think The Hurt Locker does and Apocalypse Now did for that conflict is that they unpack the abstract and make it concrete and tactile. And if they make it non-partisan, then you have a more informed opinion. At the end of the day, it's about a bomb tech walking down the street wondering if he's going to survive.

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Re: Interview: Kathryn Bigelow
Just as there's nothing of The Phoenix Project (CIA wholesale assassination program) in any movie on Vietnam (if you know one please share), we get nothing of provocateurs. Ergo, question Hurt Locker's credibility and any other work of fact or fiction that fails to look at false-flag provocations. In particular, look to Black Water. Moreover, we know Negroponte's been up to the same ol', same ol', á la Mano Blanco (i.e. the Salvador Option) and we know the Brits were studying their General Sir Frank Kitson, field manuel "Low-intensity Operations: Subversion, Insurgency and Peacekeeping," when in 2005 a 2-man team of SAS operatives were seized in Basara, dressed as locals, sniping at police while their explosives-laden auto (i.e. car bomb) awaited its mission in a nearby alley. Before they could be interrogated, some of their mates showed up in a tank, smashed into the jail and sprung them. Now that's an action-movie script to run with! Until we see a movie that factors in the black-ops, we can dismiss them all as part of the overall psy-op - be the creators witting or unwitting, hardly matters...either way the audience is duped.
By blogdog on 07/12/2009 at 3:13:08

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