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The naked sorority

May 8, 2006 3:48:12 PM

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Waller first submitted a set — shot by a New England School of Photography student — of her posed with a static-y TV. Too dark. Then she tried another one, of her lounging around and dunking cinnamon sticks into a coffee mug. That didn’t get accepted either. “On my second-to-last set, I had a lot of comments saying, ‘that’s boring.’ I thought it was pretty. Pretty boobs!” Then Palo and Dan Wherren tag-team photographed a “Midnight Snack”–themed set that had Waller raiding the refrigerator in a nightgown. Alas, even though that didn’t make the cut either, Waller says the process was fun. “Lexie was there as my fluffer.”

Waller posts links to her rejected pictures on the SG Hopefuls group, inviting public critiques, some of which can be brutal. “An established model or an established member can say, ‘I know exactly why that wasn’t accepted: because every single one of your expressions was the same and that’s boring and you don’t know how to pose flatteringly for your body type.’ ” Says Waller: “Ouch.”

Still, she dreams of being a SuicideGirl. It isn’t about the money or even about nude modeling. To her, and to the other countless hopefuls, SuicideGirls has a certain standing. “If I weren’t concerned with status, I would’ve gone to Oberlin or the University of Oklahoma, instead of Harvard.”

The drama
“I’m not gonna lie, I actually had to stop some drama today,” admits Sid about halfway through a 90-minute conversation over a bowl of chicken-noodle soup at the Greenhouse Coffee Shop, in Harvard Square. “The story is, I thought I offended somebody. I honestly couldn’t pinpoint a time or place when I could have offended this person. . . . I came to find out it was all based on a lie that somebody else believed. I feel bad, but I at least didn’t do anything wrong.”

Anyone who reads Sid’s public journal knows she’s been troubled by a few people in the SGBoston community over the past few weeks. The day before, she’d lamented, “No matter how good of a person you try to be, there is always one fucking bitch there cutting you down behind your back.”

Members hint at the gossipy, catty side of SuicideGirls in an offhand way, because it doesn’t square with all their talk about support and friendship and community. But it shouldn’t come as a surprise: sisterly mini scandals can erupt among any group of “confident,” “opinionated” women with “strong personalities” — no matter how punk, hot, enlightened, empowered, nude, or tattooed they are. What’s more important to members and SGs is that friendship coexists with occasional conflict. “The community is just amazing, and I’ve gotten to be so close with the people here, I didn’t ever expect it,” says Kera, who’s too busy with her academic life at UMass Boston to be bothered with she-said–she-said hearsay. “So when drama happens either in my real life or online, I just ignore it.”

That’s pretty much how she and the newer SuicideGirls seem to view the mass departure of last fall. “I don’t really know what the allegations were, but they all seemed very far-fetched,” Kera says. “So it didn’t really affect the way I thought about myself as being part of the community.”

Having heard the nasty epithets hurled at the site, many of the younger SGs don’t seem to idealize SG as some sort of feminist utopia. For them, gender empowerment isn’t really a consideration. “The idea of feminism never came into play when I applied, nor does it enter my mind to this day,” Lexie writes in an e-mail about why she applied to become a SuicideGirl. (Her personal profile says she did SG because “my vagina told me to.”) “I never did it for social equality, nor womens interests.” She adds, “In my daily life, the mass-model exodus had no affect on me.”

Yet even some loyal members believe the site is not the strong-willed sisterhood it’s cracked up to be. “I’m sure that 90 percent of what’s out there that’s negative is true,” says Allston resident Dan Wherren, who’s been a willing SG consumer for four years. “But even though I don’t believe in PepsiCo and CocaCola, I still buy their products.”

SuicideGirls do keep disappearing individually (some for personal reasons, like pregnancy). So do members: observers point out that any time a subscriber posts an anti-SG rant in her journal, she gets “zotted” — her profile mysteriously disappears. And an affiliated promotion that has MySpace members voting for a weekly “SuicideGirl Beauty Queen” has ruffled some feathers. (It’s worth noting that one of the site’s biggest defenders from last fall, site programmer and SuicideGirl Olivia, recently disappeared from the site.)

“There’s drama everywhere,” says Bailey, who’s recently watched many of her first-generation peers disappear. “I’m amused by it because I’m like, ‘Are people forgetting that this is a porn site?’ That’s all it comes down to in the end. You’re naked on the Internet.’ ”

Bowie, who became a SuicideGirl after the squabble, couldn’t care less. “I don’t really think that I’m doing SuicideGirls because I want to empower myself. I thought it’d be fun. I just like boobs.”

On the Web
SuicideGirls: //www.suicidegirls.com


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COMMENTS

This is one of the most BS, fluff promotional pieces I've read on SG. It doesn't even address some of the new issues that have come up, such as the fact that SG is selling off Archived girls photos and their PRIVATE information (2257 information, which includes their ID's, addreses etc) To anyone that has 500 at contentpinup.com, and the promised these girls that they would never, ever do that. Yet they continue to deny that they are involved in it, despite hard, cold proof. //img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=missy6pq.jpg //img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loving2cd.jpg

POSTED BY photo_slave AT 04/28/06 1:03 PM
It's also interesting to note that Dan Wherren was Banned from Suicidegirls for his comment "90% of what you hear is probably true" And Kera Was placed in the Archive for disagreeing with the ban.....

POSTED BY ProjectWARBEAST AT 05/02/06 1:38 AM
Seems like a pretty well written article to me ... I quite like SG personally ..

POSTED BY No Filter: The Book AT 05/09/06 10:55 PM
I go to school with one of the girls interviewed in this article and we've been in a couple of the same classes. I can say objectively that she's one of the most vapid, self-absorbed people I've ever met. If you browse through the blog entries of other SG models, it's obvious that 80% of the site's girls are just as bad. SG is one of the most depressing things I've ever seen. The neverending stream of drooling fanboys praising these girls only serves to inflate the already massive egos of a group of people whose only accomplishment in life is posing naked on the Internet. And the guys who buy stuff off of the girls' Amazon wishlists - it's tantamount to paying a prostitute and then, instead of having sex, watching her take your money and spend it on another star tattoo. I'm not talking about every SG - I'm sure at least some of them are productive members of society - and I have nothing against porn, but anything that encourages this kind of self-centered and overly dramatic behavior can't be good. About the article: it's interesting to hear the motivation behind these girls' decision to model, but I would've liked to hear more about the negative press that SG's founders have been trying to quash.

POSTED BY bigriff AT 05/11/06 10:29 AM
Hey, bigriff, you must've missed the follow-up: //thephoenix.com/article_ektid11439.aspx

POSTED BY Look around AT 05/17/06 4:21 PM

POSTED BY Cap'n AT 11/20/06 2:57 PM
Wish I'd seen bigriff's comments last spring. Perhaps we know each other, but I also have gone to school with an SG. Actually two SGs. And they're both of higher than average intelligence. Their SG blogs may or may not reflect their real attitudes towards life, but calling them vapid and self-absorbed is unfair in any case. I'm sure each SG has a different reason for doing what she's doing, and while I may not agree with the choice, it is a choice the vast majority of them are making for quite rational reasons--whether they're doing it for money, or art, or their version of feminism, or just to get laid more. Also, everyone does what they do at least partially for ego gratification; so accusing them of that as being their primary motivation is a red herring to say the least.

POSTED BY Cap'n AT 11/20/06 3:04 PM
Im on my way up this Weekend to Check your Place out. Travis Grillo & Eric Grillo may show up with me. Been a while since I first hurd about you guys Very Interested to Meet You Guys

POSTED BY Carignan 81 AT 02/13/07 1:13 PM
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